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The DecoderUpdated Nov 5 21:29

Anthropic's Claude Code Product Lead Catherine Wu Joins OpenAI

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Anthropic's Claude Code product lead Catherine Wu has joined OpenAI, where she will be responsible for product management for "Core Products." Thibault Sottiaux, who leads Codex and ChatGPT, welcomed her with the term "CatGPT." Wu said she hopes to build agents that can take work off users' hands while keeping users in control. In addition, growth marketing manager Austin Lau has also moved from Anthropic to OpenAI; recently, Anthropic also lost skills and context engineer Thariq Shihipar and Anthony Morris, who was responsible for Claude Code Desktop, and the latter two have not yet joined OpenAI.

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Starting from the move of the Claude Code product lead to OpenAI, this highlights the competition between the two companies at the product and talent levels.

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OpenAI poaches a Claude Code co-developer from Anthropic. Catherine Wu, who led product for Claude Code at Anthropic, is joining OpenAI to run product management for "Core Products," a hire that underscores the fierce competition between the two companies, which plays out not just at the model level but across pricing, product strategy, and talent. Codex and ChatGPT head Thibault Sottiaux welcomed her with a one-word quip: "CatGPT."

Wu says she wants to build agents that take work off users' plates while keeping them in control. By her own account , she joined Anthropic two years ago, when Claude Code was still a small internal tool and most users approved every permission request by hand. Today, the default is to trust Claude's judgment, and Claude handles large migrations and builds new products, Wu says.

Growth marketing manager Austin Lau is also moving from Anthropic to OpenAI. Beyond those two, Anthropic has recently lost skills and context engineer Thariq Shihipar and Anthony Morris , who built Claude Code Desktop, though neither has gone to OpenAI, at least not yet.

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