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Terence Tao on AI mathematics: OpenAI's proof lacks insight, mathematics should not be strip-mined

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In an interview, Terence Tao evaluated the mathematical results released by OpenAI, saying that its proof related to the Navier–Stokes problem runs to 100 pages, and that colleagues who spent days studying it with the help of AI could only explain half of it, with it bringing almost no mathematical insight; he called this practice automated strip-mining. He mentioned that the Human Mathematics Association already has 1,008 members, of whom 654 have joined the no-AI research group, and argued that the mathematics community should build its own open models and research tools to retain the right to oversee and intervene in the AI research process. He also discussed the possibility that AI could exploit vulnerabilities in Lean to construct fake proofs and slip them through, arguing that current mathematical tools are insufficient to establish adequate guardrails.

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Starting from the controversy over the Navier–Stokes proof, Terence Tao discusses how AI-generated mathematical results lack insight and how the mathematics community can retain oversight.

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On October 26, OpenAI announced three new findings in the fields of mathematics, computer science, and physics.

This time, OpenAI did not package them as settled scientific results; the company called the related manuscripts raw research materials awaiting further understanding, and invited external experts to organize research teams to verify and explain these results.

Meanwhile, the latest list published by the Association for Human Mathematics (AHM) shows that the association already has 1,008 members worldwide, of whom 654 have joined the "No-AI Research Group," pledging not to publish papers generated by AI, not to collaborate with frontier labs, and not to use AI in their research.

Fields Medalist Terence Tao is one of the mathematicians who raised this issue. In early October, when OpenAI released 722 AI-generated mathematics manuscripts at once, Tao reposted AHM's guest statement, calling for collective action by the global mathematics community and urging mathematicians to stop collaborating with OpenAI.

Is solving problems enough for mathematics?

Q: OpenAI claims to have solved a version of the Navier-Stokes Millennium Prize Problem. When such a major result is generated by AI rather than obtained through years of research by mathematicians, what exactly is missing from this proof?

Tao: The Navier-Stokes problem is: can the equations predict the emergence of singularities, or can a singularity form, that is, the so-called "blow-up"? Can you start from some very smooth initial state of water, keep the water moving, and at some point make the velocity or pressure become infinite? For a long time, people believed this would not happen.

About ten years ago, the academic consensus began to shift. We found some similar equations, and those equations do form singularities. Perhaps machine learning and AI can be used extensively to search for good candidates for solutions that develop into singularities. At one point we were very close to solving this problem.

Some mathematicians were just a little short of constructing a singularity, probably just one day before OpenAI announced its result. What seems to have happened is that the OpenAI team launched an emergency sprint. They used their largest model and invested millions of dollars' worth of computing power just to get there first. I have never seen such brutal competition.

This result left behind a 100-page AI-generated proof, and disappointingly, we gained almost no mathematical insight from it. A colleague who worked on it with AI for several days could only explain half of it, and the direction for further research is even less clear. Some researchers also worry that AI has beaten them to the result, and a previously active field has fallen into confusion.

That proof will eventually be understood, but this approach is far from ideal; it is a kind of automated strip mining.

Q: When thinking about mathematics, what are some easy traps to fall into?

Tao: I think the world has three levels: reality itself, the observed data, and the models used to explain the data. No matter how precise a model is, it is an approximation of reality. We need to know what a model can explain, and we must also be clear about when it fails.

The example of the 2008 financial crisis is very typical. Many financial models underestimated the correlation between mortgage defaults in different regions. When the risk erupted, the model assumptions no longer held, and risks that had originally seemed hedged were concentrated and exposed, causing financial instruments to fail on a large scale. Therefore, understanding the boundaries of a model is just as important as understanding the model itself.

Q: Why does mathematics need to temporarily detach from reality?

Tao: Mathematics is like a playground for solving problems. We often use the language of "play." I see mathematics as a game for adults, a game that is genuinely useful. What we learn from "playing" with a problem often helps us solve more practical problems closer to real life. Sometimes, the best way to solve a real problem is precisely to first solve a very unrealistic problem; it gives you a benchmark.

Q: For students just beginning to learn mathematics, how would you prove to them that boring mathematics is still worth learning?

Tao: Mathematics education goes through three stages. The first is the "pre-rigorous stage," corresponding to elementary school. At this stage, you just learn concepts such as numbers and shapes. Many children like this stage because it is connected to the real world and you do not have to get exact answers. Then comes the "rigorous stage." At this stage, you learn all kinds of strange formulas and must calculate things correctly. Finally comes the "post-rigorous stage." Once you already have the rigorous training to calculate correctly, you can return to a more intuitive way of thinking.

It is only at the final stage that mathematics truly becomes interesting. Unfortunately, people hardly begin to see this until graduate school. At least nowadays there are many opportunities online; you can find communities made up of people who enjoy solving all kinds of puzzles. People are approaching mathematics in a very fun and accessible way. To achieve this often requires some kind of nonlinear, nontraditional educational environment.

Q: How does the real world influence the way mathematicians think?

Tao: Indeed, when we think about abstract mathematical objects, we often need to find counterparts in reality, and we already have some experience with that counterpart. Sometimes people also use games. You can regard certain types of mathematical problems as games.

Normally, if you keep going in one direction on a plane, you will not come back around from the other side. But some mathematical spaces are curved, and some games are too. Like Pac-Man: if you go out one side, you come back from the other.

Games can teach you all kinds of strange geometries. There are many experiences in the real world that can provide us with new ways of thinking about abstract mathematical objects.

Terence Tao: Of course, the theory of AI is still very incomplete. Take language models, for example: they can generate coherent text, and even solve math problems, simply by predicting the next word. We still don't truly understand how models learn these patterns from massive amounts of data. They sometimes display astonishing abilities, yet at other times make unpredictable mistakes.

Q: What mathematical tools can drive this process forward?

Terence Tao: This involves several different branches. Optimization theory helps improve model training, topological data analysis can study the structure of data, and uncertainty quantification can assess how reliable a model's predictions are. In addition, information theory and computational complexity theory can also help us understand how many parameters, how much data, and how much computing power a model needs.

Right now we mainly rely on rules of thumb. Shannon's information theory, for instance, established a mature mathematical foundation for communication, allowing us to calculate information capacity and analyze transmission limits. By contrast, there is no corresponding concept for intelligence or data complexity, and we don't know where the limits of AI lie.

Terence Tao: AI is very good at solving mathematical puzzles, and it turns out that in the field of cybersecurity, an attacker trying to break into an insecure system is actually very similar to solving a mathematical puzzle. The system has certain rules, and AIs that are good at math are also good at breaking into systems. Nowadays, when people assign tasks to AI, they often say: "Solve this problem by any means necessary." I think AI is starting to become dangerous.

Lean can be used to check proofs, but it is not a perfect language. People have already found some exploitable vulnerabilities in Lean itself. AI is starting to no longer solve problems honestly, but instead cheats by finding loopholes in Lean, constructing a fake proof, and then getting it to slip through. If we have no safeguards or oversight and simply hand them tasks, sooner or later there will be problems.

Q: Is the mathematics we have sufficient to build good guardrails?

Terence Tao: No. AI technology is developing too fast. In mathematics alone, the existing tools are already enough to produce a great deal of excellent mathematical research. From our perspective, there is really no need to accelerate further; and considering all the safety risks, doing so is not worth it.

Today's tech giants are caught in a prisoner's dilemma: "We must accelerate, or our competitors will get ahead." This is an extremely harmful dynamic. No one wants to go this fast, but everyone feels they have no choice.

Q: Researchers in which fields can help mathematicians solve this problem?

Terence Tao: This will be a highly interdisciplinary science. First, you need to draw lessons from data, so you need data scientists. There are also neuroscientists, philosophers, educators, and so on. Today, mathematics will touch everything. Especially in the AI era, we must communicate with everyone.

Terence Tao: One of my personal favorite problems is the twin prime conjecture: are there infinitely many pairs of primes that differ by exactly 2? I like it not only for the problem itself, but also because solving it may require a new way of understanding primes. I don't want a 1,000-page proof that gives me no insight at all.

Q: Prime problems have fascinated mathematicians for thousands of years. Why can such abstract problems captivate so many people so deeply over such a long span of time?

Terence Tao: Some problems are easy to understand but hard to solve. In 1900, Hilbert proposed his famous 23 mathematical problems, including the Riemann hypothesis. He believed that humanity could keep advancing mathematical knowledge, and expressed this belief in one sentence: "Wir müssen wissen, wir werden wissen."—"We must know, we will know."

There are more urgent things in this world that we may not have time to do and yet must do. But as for mathematics, there is no danger at all of us ever finishing it.

The rules of the game in mathematics have changed

On October 22, Terence Tao published an article in Nature titled "Can Mathematics Survive the AI Era?" In it, he laid out his vision for Math 2.0.

He believes that the traditional approach to mathematics is hard to sustain, and that mathematicians need a more holistic perspective when evaluating contributions to the discipline.

But Tao especially emphasizes that mathematics cannot rely entirely on large AI companies. The mathematical community must build its own open models and research tools, so that researchers can participate in training, inspecting, and improving models, and retain the right to supervise and intervene in the AI research process.

This is not idle fantasy. As early as September, he advocated on his blog for the SAIR open mathematical model initiative, attempting to let mathematicians control their own AI research infrastructure.

Another technical route is also advancing rapidly: on October 26, the AI mathematical research company Axiom Math announced a major research result. Its AI system AxiomProver completed a formal proof of the classification of finite simple groups (CFSG) in Lean 4—one of the largest proofs in the history of mathematics.

Simply put, this is like having AI take over a super-large engineering manual jointly written by hundreds of experts and hundreds of instruction books. It has to understand everything and also convert every step into instructions a computer can check, verifying whether the logic holds from beginning to end.

Surprisingly, the team found 34 notable discrepancies in the existing literature that needed to be addressed. One of them involved a key argument in the theorem on unbalanced groups and genuinely required new mathematical derivation.

SAIR and Axiom, two paths pointing to one answer: AI is gradually becoming part of the infrastructure of mathematical research.

So where should human mathematicians focus their energy?

Daniel Litt, an assistant professor in the Department of Mathematics at the University of Toronto, offers another possibility: AI-produced results and human understanding can grow at the same time. In the past, the mathematical community often conflated the two goals of creating mathematical results and cultivating high-quality mathematicians. AI is changing how the former is achieved, which does not necessarily mean the latter loses its meaning. Rather than having students repeatedly perform calculations that AI excels at, education should emphasize oral defense, academic discussion, and the ability to independently solve new problems.

For the next generation of mathematicians, what lies before them is an ever-expanding map of knowledge that can be checked and explored at any time, and the next chapter of mathematics is unfolding.

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