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Musk: After AI Fully Surpasses Humans, Humans Will Retreat to Being Backyard Vegetable Growers

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In Isaacson's latest interview, Musk responded to the question "What is the meaning once AI fully surpasses humans?" by saying that humans will ultimately become people growing vegetables in their backyards: machines can complete any specific skill at lower cost and faster speed, and usefulness will depreciate accordingly. He said humanity will undergo a "civilization-level forced retirement," in which art and labor detach from utility and return to pure play of the mind. When Isaacson pressed him on where art belongs, Musk said machine technique can instantly surpass everyone, but human creation is about confirming in the clumsy process that one is truly alive.

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You absolutely must watch more of Musk's interviews. They're fucking brilliant, absolutely mind-blowing, with a feeling of looking down on all living beings. Standing on Earth, all you see is fighting over existing stock; lift your head, and all you see is infinite possibility. I suddenly feel I understand why Musk @elonmusk wants to go to Mars, and why he doesn't hesitate to spend huge sums exploring space. In his latest interview, Musk used just 50 seconds to tear apart the financial common sense humanity has maintained for thousands of years. Musk said: In the near future, money will become completely irrelevant. When many people hear this, their first reaction is that it's the richest man flexing again, or a sci-fi believer fantasizing about a communist utopia. But if you look at it from a first-principles physics perspective, what he is saying is actually an extremely cold and inevitable inference. When the scale of the economy is forcibly expanded a millionfold by space and embodied intelligence, modern financial currency built on scarcity will completely fail at the physical level. Every banknote and every digital account in modern society is essentially humanity issuing ration coupons for limited materials and labor. The money you earn measures your ability to compete for survival resources in a stock-based society. But Musk directly pieces three puzzle pieces together: unlimited robot labor, inexhaustible space resources, and an electromagnetic launcher on the lunar surface that can throw materials into orbit at zero cost. Once this system works, productivity will no longer be limited by this fragile rocky sphere called Earth. The economic volume of the entire civilization will instantly surge to 1 million times its current level. In the face of that physical reality of extreme abundance, paper money, gold, and even central bank balance sheets will lose their pricing significance, just as shells did in the face of modern industry. Currency will not disappear out of thin air, but its definition will be fully taken over by the laws of physics. It will no longer be anchored to the credit of sovereign states, nor to ethereal market confidence, but will directly retreat to the three hardest-core physical quantities: power, mass, and energy. The hard currency of the future will no longer be how many zeros sit in your bank card, but how many watts of power you can call upon at that moment, how many tons of mass you can command, and how many joules of energy you can release. Computing power needs electricity, propulsion needs propellant, and restructuring atoms needs energy input. From paper money to energy currency is essentially human civilization shifting from zero-sum distribution through surface-level involution to the real ledger of a Kardashev-scale civilization. Stop being anxious all day about the inflation and depreciation of the little stock of currency you have on hand. When the underlying coordinates of the world begin to shift from financial numbers to physical energy, the truly hard-core assets that can survive cycles in the future will always be those held by people who directly control energy conversion efficiency.

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一定要多看马斯克的访谈,真他么牛逼,醍醐灌顶,有种俯视众生的感觉,站在地球上看全是存量厮杀,抬起头看全是无限可能,我突然觉得看懂了马斯克@elonmusk 为啥想要去火星了,为啥不惜砸重金探索太空了, 马斯克在最新的访谈里,用短短 50 秒撕碎了人类延续数千年的金融常识, 老马说:在不久的将来,钱会变得彻底无关紧要。 很多人听到这种话,第一反应觉得又是首富在凡尔赛,或者是科幻信徒在空想共产主义乌托邦。 但如果你站在第一性原理的物理视角看,他说的其实是一个极度冷酷且必然的推论, 当经济规模被太空和具身智能硬生生放大一百万倍时,基于稀缺性建立的现代金融货币,就会从物理层面彻底失效。 现代社会的每一张钞票、每一个数字账户,本质上都是人类在给有限的物资与劳动力发配给券。 你赚的钱,衡量的是你在存量社会里争抢生存资源的能力, 但马斯克把三块拼图直接拼在了一起: 无限供应的机器人劳动力、取之不尽的太空资源,再加上月球表面能零成本把物资扔进轨道的电磁弹射器。 当这套系统跑通,生产力将不再受限于地球这颗脆弱的岩石球体。 整个文明的经济体量会瞬间暴涨到现在的 100 万倍。 在那种极度过剩的物理现实面前,纸币、黄金、甚至央行的资产负债表,都会像贝壳在现代工业面前一样失去计价意义。 货币不会凭空消失,但它的定义会被物理定律全面接管。 它不再锚定主权国家的信用,也不再锚定虚无缥缈的市场信心,而是直接退回到最硬核的三个物理量: 功率、质量、以及能量。 未来的硬通货,不再是你银行卡里趴着多少个零,而是你那一刻能够调用多少瓦的功率、支配多少吨的质量、释放多少焦耳的能量。 算力需要电,推进需要工质,重构原子需要能量输入。 从纸币到能量币,本质上是人类文明从地表内卷的零和分配,彻底倒向了卡尔达肖夫指数级文明的真实账本。 别再整天焦虑手头那点存量货币的通胀与贬值了。 当世界的底层坐标开始从金融数字向物理能量转移,未来真正能穿越周期的硬核资产,永远是那些直接掌控能量转换效率的人。

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When machines are stronger than you at everything, what meaning is left in being alive?

In a recent interview, biographer Isaacson asked Musk this to his face, and what he got back was a minimalist parable about growing vegetables in the backyard.

If, in the future, AI and robots are better than humans at everything, what meaning is left in human existence?

Musk took less than a minute to give an answer that was extremely calm but also thoroughly overturned industrial values.

He said: We humans will probably all end up as people growing vegetables in the backyard.

From the very beginning, reality offered no room for wishful thinking. Any specific skill humans can master, future machines will not only be able to do, but do at lower cost, faster, and with more flawless quality.

Just as today you have absolutely no need to clear land and grow potatoes in the backyard under the blazing sun—vegetables at the corner supermarket are always cheaper and fresher than what you grow yourself.

But even today, some people still like to tend a few tomato plants on the balcony and spend a whole afternoon washing vegetables and cooking, just to serve friends a dish grown by their own hands.

In terms of pure industrial efficiency, this is a complete negative asset, but it contains a warmth that machines can never calculate.

Over the past few centuries, modern society has alienated everyone into precision gears chasing efficiency.

You trade your problem-solving ability for a salary, and your social status, dignity of existence, and even the meaning of survival are all tightly kidnapped by the three words "usefulness."

But once machines push efficiency to its physical limit, usefulness instantly depreciates to the cheapest cabbage price.

At that point humanity will not head toward nihilism; humanity is undergoing a civilization-level forced retirement.

Like those retired elderly people who nonetheless live immensely full lives, they no longer need to work for any boss, no longer need to prove their output to anyone; they paint, grow flowers, and fish purely because they like it.

Isaacson immediately followed up: What about art? Does art still belong to humans?

Musk's answer was even clearer and more direct: Of course you can create whatever you want.

The paintings machines paint and the songs they write can crush everyone in technique.

But the meaning of human creation has never been to compete with machines in technique, but to confirm, in the clumsy process of creation, that one is still truly alive.

When the shackles of making a living are completely torn apart by machines, art and labor truly break free from utility and return to being pure games of the mind.

Machines take charge of all the efficiency of survival, while humans retreat to the experience of life itself.

Stop worrying about when the machine will take away the rice bowl in your hands.

In that tomorrow of infinitely excessive efficiency, the only card that can truly let you live with dignity is: If you do not rely on work to prove you are useful, do you still know how to make yourself happy?

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